In this episode of The Third Story podcast, host Leo Sidran talks with Shabaka about his creative development and philosophy, as well as about his new record.

Shabaka: “This is the moment to make patient music”

There are stories we tell ourselves. There are stories we tell our friends. There are the stories we tell strangers. There are stories we never tell.Somewhere, in the middle of all of this, is the Third Story. The intersection between the art and the craft, the living and the living, the personal and the professional…The place where all of these meet is the Third Story.The Third Story podcast features long-form interviews with musicians and members of the creative class, hosted by Leo Sidran. Their stories of discovery, loss, ambition, identity, improvisation, risk, and reward are deeply moving and compelling for all of us as we embark on our own creative journeys.Third Story Podcast is a 2024 Jazz Journalism Association Podcast of the Year Nominee. Third Story Podcast is a 2023 Signal Award WinnerCheck out the rest of our lineup at WBGO Studios.

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Shabaka: “This is the moment to make patient music”

Shabaka: “This is the moment to make patient music”