I am so lucky that my guest today moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico last year and now I get to hang out with her on a regular basis. Kelly Engel had years of involvement with dog shows, rescue, and animal control before opening her business, Know Thy Dog in Montana. Her facility offered real-world lifestyle training and behavior counseling. Kelly excelled at helping challenging dogs live more fulfilling lives with their families. Currently living with 17 dogs of various shapes and sizes, Kelly believes in the healing power of a pack of dogs and outdoor adventure to bring dogs back to balance. Kelly shares great stories, wisdom from training aggressive dogs for many years, and her thoughts on the challenges dogs and their humans face and how to help them. She also has a Venn diagram for the ultimate balance of skills for dog trainers. With experience, one realizes we can only learn the tippy-tip of knowledge about another species and why it is important to be aware of the many grey areas in dog training.

While taking a five-year sabbatical from training, she delved into feral dogs when she moved to New Mexico. This is when Kelly and I came up with the idea of a joint immersion workshop with feral dogs. Find out more information on this 2 and 6-day workshop at my website www.hart2heartcanine.com/store

Kelly is opening a new business in Santa Fe in 2025. This area can really use Kelly's expertise and I am excited to see her business succeed. When she launces her website the address will be www.kellyengel.com