Claire! Jackie and Kyle are joined this week by their first guest and dearest friend, Claire (#JackieAndKyleApproved). Jackie is experiencing severe bitterness with this state’s road construction while Kyle continues his war on flags: this time, people with flags on their trucks (the Civil War ended, like, forever ago). Even Claire is tired of waiting a week between TV episodes like it’s 1997. It gets even more educational than you can imagine (#WePostInformativeContent) as Claire talks about shame (#CatholicGuilt) and compassion. They discuss the importance of humor and cursing in therapy. At the same time, Claire shares real therapeutic information in a plot to take over the podcast by canceling Jackie and Kyle for the nonsense they’ve talked about over ten episodes. Jackie and Kyle also share their own moments of shame which shockingly have to do with accidentally going #1 and #2. They’ll explore the world of vegetarianism through a special edition of Fetch or Flop. “How very human of you.” -Claire www.twotiredtherapists.com

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