Shame can feel like a stain you can’t scrub out, especially when everyone’s watching. In this first episode of The Elephant, hosts Mark Crysell and Miriama Kamo sit down with Golriz Ghahraman and Tory Whanau to talk about public fallout, private pain and what real accountability looks like.

Psychiatrist Dr Tanveer Ahmed, clinical psychologist Dr Dougal Sutherland and crisis PR manager Glenda Hughes also join the conversation to unpack how shame works, why the internet makes it worse and what reintegration might take. This is a candid kōrero about finding peace, supporting each other and moving forward as a community.

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