We’re back with our buddy Chapman Bullock, who brought us Home Slice Pizza, setting the bar for all future podcast guests. Patty wants to know how does one value their own work. Dwight shares his own experience. Do you want to be a Motel 6, or a Four Seasons? Chapman shares how he increased his rates the more he learned and grew as an artist. He created the graphics package for the very first HD channel on his first job, and more recently, the title sequence for Jordan Peele’s movie, Us. It’s 90% who you know folks! Young artists should go work long hours around other artists before breaking out on their own. Dwight likes working in big studios around other musicians and “life.” Chapman concurs, working in a space where you can “shoot the shit” with other people. He currently shoots the shit and shares a space with Alexandra Valenti, a world renowned photographer with whom we’ve had a couple different shoots with. (We should have her on the show.) It’s interesting to think about art prices in terms of hourly wages. Dwight recently met a guy who does large portraits of people’s pets. Patty has a hand stitched patch of her dog, Tripp and it is a spitting image. (Will post on the insta!) Okay, now Chapman has questions for Dwight and Patty. He covers first records owned, first concerts attended, most important albums, inspiration, and more. Politics vs Religion in terms of conversations we’re willing to have. (We don’t have them though!) Patty tells the story of that time her dad chucked an Eminem CD out the window of her first car. We touch on the fact that people don’t listen to albums much anymore, and the idea of consuming music in smaller doses. We’re considering releasing our new songs in the moment while we’re really excited about them. What do you think about that? Let us know!

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