In this episode Zach and Nathan talk with Nate Pickowicz about what it takes for something to go viral and pastors who shame their congregations when they are not sinning. Nate  is a thinker and prolific commentator on Christian issues, and has even written several books. Check out the great conversation, and then head over to missional wear to pick up one of their great 5 Solas products, or the TGT11 stuff we have going on.