Songwriter and musician Shamir Bailey and artist Faye Orlove talk about the art of the music video that Faye illustrated and animated for the song “Running” off of Shamir’s latest self-titled album. In this conversation, we get into the collaboration and connection between these two, the backstory of the video, and go deeper into both the songwriting and artmaking process. Shamir and Faye talk about the power of working with distraction (on purpose), creativity and mental health, and the downside of romanticizing the idea of the tortured rock star. Shamir even touches on some of the new music he’s been creating.

Follow Making Ways for stories behind the art of music. Learn more at www.makingwayspodcast.com. Original episode artwork by Rob Goodman. Discover more from Shamir at shamir.bandcamp.com and explore the work of Faye Orlove at fayeorlove.com.

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