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Nicola Sturgeon – “I’m not going to be bullied out of doing what I think is right.”

How do you stay true to yourself under pressure? What hope is to be found in politics today?

And is there life beyond endless crisis meetings?

Nicola Sturgeon shares her thoughts on all of this and more in the Speakeasy.

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Find Nicola's book 'Frankly' in your locally-owned bookshop, or online, here: https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/nicola-sturgeon/frankly/9781035040216

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Shami's Speakeasy is produced by Bespoken Media Scotland for Chaotic DoGooders. This episode was edited by Patrick Wallace and Ailish Hunter.