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Shane Gillis Arrested by ICE – CPW Hearing


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Episode Topic: Training Philosophy, Federal Stops, and Armed Citizen Risk
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Opening & Announcements
  • Casual intro and banter
  • Announcement of March IDS (Intuitive Defensive Shooting) classes
    • March 14: Carbine
    • March 15: Handgun
    • Location: Pikes Peak Gun Club (Colorado Springs)
    • Classes are not concealed carry classes and are not free
    • Pistol class can be used for permit purposes if needed, but that is not the course objective
    • Training Philosophy: Speed vs Decision-Making
      • Discussion on why drawing fast does not equal winning
      • Analysis of a training clip comparing:
        • Fast draw → still gets shot
        • Slower response with firearm control → wins the fight
        • Emphasis on:
          • Information processing
          • Decision-making under uncertainty
          • Winning the fight ≠ killing the bad guy
          • Combatives, Gun Retention, and Reality
            • Importance of gun retention and firearm control
            • Criticism of the idea that:
              • “If you don’t do combatives, you’re not serious about self-defense”
              • Recognition that:
                • High-level combatives are dangerous
                • Not everyone has the physical ability or risk tolerance
                • Discussion of realistic expectations for civilians vs law enforcement
                • Competition Shooting vs Defensive Training
                  • Critique of competition-based approaches bleeding into defensive training
                  • Example of competitive shooters asking for “practice runs” in defensive simulations
                  • Key distinction:
                    • Performance-based training ≠ reality-based defensive encounters
                    • Importance of contextual, surprise-based training
                    • Surprise, Stimulus, and Real-World Encounters
                      • Breakdown of what “surprise” actually means in training
                      • Difference between:
                        • Knowing something will happen
                        • Not knowing what will happen
                        • Discussion of ECQC-style scenarios and stimulus-based decision-making
                        • Viral Arrest Discussion (“Mexican Shane Gillis”)
                          • Breakdown of a viral Minnesota incident involving federal agents
                          • Armed U.S. citizen stopped, disarmed, arrested, and later released
                          • Firearm returned, no charges filed
                          • Key concerns raised:
                            • Lawful carry treated as criminal behavior
                            • Risk of federal agents stopping armed civilians
                            • Escalation caused by unnecessary gun handling
                            • Long-term consequences despite dismissal (records, cost, stress)
                            • Disclosure of Firearms to Police
                              • Discussion on no duty to inform in Colorado
                              • Risks associated with voluntarily disclosing firearm possession
                              • How disclosure often leads to:
                                • Elevated emotions
                                • Unnecessary gun handling
                                • Increased danger
                                • Emphasis on personal risk tolerance and context
                                • “We’ll Figure It Out in Court” Critique
                                  • Reality that:
                                    • Many encounters never result in meaningful accountability
                                    • Arrests and bookings can permanently affect records
                                    • Legal cleanup often comes at the citizen’s expense
                                    • Discussion on how rights violations still carry real-world consequences
                                    • Broader Implications for Gun Owners
                                      • Increased risk for:
                                        • Lawfully armed citizens
                                        • People stopped without clear cause
                                        • Importance of:
                                          • Risk management
                                          • De-escalation
                                          • Understanding how enforcement behavior affects armed civilians
                                          • Industry Commentary
                                            • Criticism of repetitive gun-industry content cycles:
                                              • SHOT Show
                                              • NRA
                                              • GOA
                                              • GunCon
                                              • Commentary on influencer culture and public figures
                                              • Discussion of how irresponsible behavior harms broader self-defense conversations
                                              • Closing Thoughts
                                                • Training should:
                                                  • Reduce risk, not inflate ego
                                                  • Reflect real-world uncertainty
                                                  • Being armed increases responsibility, not immunity
                                                  • Decision-making and restraint matter more than speed
                                                  • ...more
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