What if discipleship isn’t about trying harder, learning more, or getting your theology exactly right—but about being reshaped at the level of story and identity?

In this episode of The Ordinary Discipleship Podcast, Jacob is joined by Jessie Cruickshank and Julia Schmaltz to explore how God actually forms us. Drawing from their book Becoming Good News, they unpack how discipleship works not primarily through information, but through experience, story, and the way God designed our minds and bodies to change.

The conversation weaves together neuroscience, theology, and lived experience—especially the role of autobiographical memory, identity formation, and the stories we live out of every day. Along the way, they challenge performance-based models of discipleship and offer a hopeful vision: God has already built transformation into us. Our task is not to strive, but to surrender and participate.

If you’ve ever felt inadequate to make disciples, exhausted by “trying harder,” or curious about how faith actually works on Monday morning, this episode opens a different way forward.

In this episode, you’ll explore:

• Why most discipleship fails when it relies on information alone
• The difference between semantic memory and autobiographical memory
• How story shapes identity and transformation
• Why faith is relational before it is doctrinal
• What it means to “become good news” rather than just talk about it

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Jessie Cruickshank is a disciple-maker, wilderness guide, and ordained minister. She has trained thousands of people how to survive when their life depended on it and earned a Master’s degree in experiential education at Harvard to learn how the brain works to help people train more effectively.

The key to discipleship is not more information, but learning how to create intentional environments where people can learn and grow. By working with the brain and treating individuals as whole persons, you too can discover how God wired our brains for transformation. You already have all the tools you need, it is time to activate them in you and your church.