In this episode of Leaders and Their Stories, Richard Lowe sits down with seasoned tradesman and contractor Shawn Abling to discuss leadership from the ground level. Shawn shares hard-won insights about the damage caused by poor leadership, how morale is destroyed when leaders don’t lead by example, and how a hands-on, embedded approach can transform even the most unmotivated team. 

From union job sites to leadership in action, this candid conversation explores what real leadership looks like when you're in the trenches—and why it matters more than ever.