This week, Greg gets a chance to talk with the creative duo of artist Shawn Martinbrough and editor Joseph Illidge.

Their partnership started in turn-of-the-century Gotham City, with Shawn's run on Detective Comics, and has spanned the last 15 years. Over that time the two have collaborated on Shawn's art book How To Draw Noir Comics: The Art and Technique of Visual Storytelling, and have an upcoming 200-page graphic novel illustrated by Grey Williamson called The Ren, a love story set against the backdrop of the Harlem Rennaisance, set to be published by First Second in 2015.

Oh, and Shawn draws a little book for some guy named Kirkman called Thief of Thieves, which just locked in Andy Diggle as full-time writer with this week's issue #20.

Find out about all that, plus why Shawn's art both is and is not cinematic, what movie Joseph could watch once a week for the rest of his life, and who created the Batman equivalent of the Fastball Special: the dive bomb!