Zack Stamey and Ray Murakawa sit down with Jiyoon of Bean & Bean Coffee to talk about taking over a multi-location family café business, modernizing it for today’s specialty scene, and launching Picolot as a “rapid release” canvas for tiny, ultra-interesting lots. Along the way they unpack Bean & Bean’s sloth rebrand (and its farm-ecosystem meaning), how Jiyoon thinks about pricing + margins for luxury coffees, what it’s like balancing multiple customer “coffee languages”, and why she’s leaning hard into education + standards—from community cuppings to a barista evaluation program.

They also get into the evolved Q / CVA, origin travel with her mom (mother–daughter Q-grader duo), and the realities of roasting very light coffees on a Stronghold S7X. The rapid-fire closes with strong takes: Seoul as a top coffee city and doing a legit pour-over routine on an airplane.