In this episode of All Rise, Abdu Murray and Derek Caldwell sit down with Sabrina Joy Stevens to explore what happens when the systems designed to combat "disinformation" begin to lose their grip on truth.

As a former insider in the anti-disinformation world, Sabrina shares her journey from activist to critic—and why the narrative she once defended eventually stopped adding up. Along the way, we examine the rise of institutional groupthink, the pressure to conform, and what it means to pursue truth when it comes at a personal cost.

Keep up with Sabrina Joy Stevens on Substack (https://substack.com/@realsabijoy) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@realsabijoy).

Helpful resources:

Sabrina's testimony: https://swordplayxsabi.substack.com/p/hes-done-so-much-for-me

"When Ideology Meets Industry": https://sabrinajoystevens.substack.com/p/when-ideology-meets-industry

"The Counter-Disinformation Industry Promotes Left-Wing Groupthink, Not Truth": https://freeblackthought.substack.com/p/the-disinformation-industry-promotes

"Beware of the Social Justish Pseudo Gospel": https://swordplayxsabi.substack.com/p/beware-of-the-social-justish-pseudo

"When Consensus Cracks": https://sabrinajoystevens.substack.com/p/when-consensus-cracks

Learn about Abdu's urgent new book, Fake ID: How AI and Identity Ideology Are Collapsing Reality—And What to Do About It (David C Cook, 2026) at https://realitycollapsebook.com/.

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