She Said

She Said

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She Said episodes

  • Season 5: Checking in during our slay era

    We’re baaaaaaack! Welcome to season five, friends. Katie + Kenz are coming in hot with a plan for the season and all the new media we’ve been consuming since we’ve talked to you last. Tune in to hear what we’ve been up to and catch a preview of the movie we’ll cover in episode no. 1. 

    Media mentions:

    • “I’m Glad My Mom Died” by Janette McCurdy
    • "The City of Brass” by S.A. Chakraborty
    • Quiet on Set (2024)
    • One Tree Hill (2003-2012)
    • “You Made It Weird” with Pete Holmes
    • “Swift and Saddled: A Rebel Blue Ranch Novel” by Lyla Sage
    • 1 hr 16 min
    • Checking in on us at 26-ish

      Wrap up season four (4?!) with us! After two reflective check-in episodes, Katie + Kenz are checking in on our current lives. This includes but is not limited to wine, grocery shopping, romance novels and grad school. Stick with us 'til the end for our current media and some recent accomplishments.


      Media mentions:

      • “Ice Planet Barbarians” by Ruby Dixon
        • “Circle B Ranch” Series by Kennedy Fox
          • Shrinking (2023-present)
            • "8 Rules of Love" by Jay Shetty
              • Atlas of the Heart" (2022-present)
                • “Wineries in Iowa Tour”
                  • “The Priory of the Orange Tree” by Samantha Shannon
                    • Ted Lasso (2020-present)
                      • “Getting to the heart of team culture with Pete Carroll” on Work Life With Adam Grant
                      • 1 hr 21 min
                      • She Said, "I don't think people will want to talk."

                        Today, we're tackling a tough movie with the same namesake as this podcast: She Said. In it, two NYT journalists publish a report that exposes sexual abuse allegations against powerful Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein. We dive into the movie, talk about our journalism education, and share the "headlines and punchlines" that we walked away with. At the end of this ep, we do our final sweet and sour wines of the season. Click here to review content warnings for the movie.


                        Media mentions:

                        She Said (2022)

                        1 hr 8 min
                      • Checking in on us at 8

                        Kenz has a theory that the things we learn about ourselves and the hobbies we have when we are in middle school aren’t all that different than adulthood. Sure, we grow and change and things take different forms… but there are some pieces of us that are set already, too. She asks Katie a few questions, like, "How did you like to spend your free time?," "How would you be described by friends, teachers, parents?" and "Would you have been perceived as an introvert or an extrovert?" Let us know your answers to these questions, too!


                        Media mentions:

                        • ⁠Podcrushed⁠
                        • “⁠Atomic Habits⁠” by James Clear
                        • ⁠The Mindy Project⁠ (2012-2017)
                        • ⁠Hinterland playlist⁠ on Spotify
                        • ⁠The Tonight Show Musical Guests playlist⁠ on Spotify
                        • “⁠Georgie, All Along⁠” by Kate Clayborn
                        • ⁠Beef⁠ (2023)
                        • ⁠Are & Be⁠ playlist on Spotify
                        • 1 hr 17 min
                        • She Said, "Everything Everywhere All at Once."

                          Today, Kenz + Katie are dissecting the 2023 Oscar-sweeping absurd fantasy movie Everything Everywhere All at Once. It's packed with hidden meanings and artful displays of culture and story. We highly recommend it! Stick with us through the conversation to hear some sweet and sour wines from your Iowa girlies.


                          Media Mentions:

                          • Everything Everywhere All at Once (2022)
                          • Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010)
                          • Red (2010)
                          • Amy Tan: Unintended Memoir (2021)
                          • Lady Bird (2017)
                          • 1 hr 9 min
                          • Checking in on us at 18

                            Katie + Kenz met at 18 years old during a pre-orientation day for college. They decided to become roommates. Who knew this is where we would be sitting 8 years later? Today, we're reminiscing on those early days of our friendship and remembering our hopes, what our plans were for the rest of our lives, and what we were scared of at that moment in time. Check back in as we round out the season to hear us reminisce on a few other moments in our lives. Let us know if any of our memories bring back something sweet for you, too!


                            Media mentions:

                            • "Court of the Vampire Queen" by Katee Robert
                            • Everything Everywhere All At Once (2022)
                            • MILF Manor (2023)
                            • New York Times subscription
                            • Ted Lasso (2020-present)
                            • 1 hr 28 min
                            • She Said, "Think Less. Take Action."

                              "The Confidence Code" by Katty Kay and Claire Shipman was Kenz's favorite book of 2022, and we're covering it today. Its two authors dive into the science behind confidence, how it shows up differently in men and women, and how to harness your confidence to succeed in our current world. If you don't get the chance to read or listen to this book, don't worry, we gotchu. We had an absolute blast diving into Kay and Shipman's research, so jump in and join the conversation!


                              Media mentions:

                              • "The Confidence Code" by Katty Kay and Claire Shipman
                              • Life Club Summary
                              • 1 hr 21 min
                              • Checking in about stuff and things

                                It's mid-season and we're checking in on the current state of affairs in our lives and the world. Listen in to hear all of the media we're consuming and what we're proud of this February!


                                Media mentions:

                                • “A Discovery of Witches” by Deborah Harkness
                                • A Wrinkle in Time (2018)
                                • Wonder by Jamie Drake
                                • Forever Mine playlist by Michelle Obama
                                • “Conversations on Love” by Natasha Lunn
                                • “Dear Sugar” by Cheryl Strayed
                                • The Morning Show (2019-present)
                                • Shrinking (2023)
                                • Hinterland Festival artists
                                • 1 hr 14 min
                                • She Said, "Jolene."

                                  It's Dolly time! Dolly Parton is a household name and has been for over 60 years. How does she do it? Katie leads this conversation about all things Dolly and shares her history, a podcast series that takes an even deeper dive into her work and life, and the cultural significance of the legend herself.


                                  Media mentions:

                                  • Dolly Parton's website
                                  • Dolly Parton's America (2019)
                                  • Imagination Library
                                  • Dollywood
                                  • 1 hr 21 min
                                  • Checking in on unconditional positive regard

                                    Today, Katie + Kenz are checking in on the idea of unconditional positive regard. Tune in to hear more about what the terminology means to us and how it shows up in the world. We have a LOT of media to share with you these days, so stick with us until the end to hear our recent recs and some recent accomplishments.


                                    Media mentions: 

                                    • Avatar: The Way of Water (2023)
                                    • Friends (1994-2004)
                                    • “Independence” by Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni
                                    • “10-Day Green Smoothie Cleanse” by JJ Smith
                                    • “Pillars of the Earth” by Ken Follet
                                    • We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle 
                                    • Parks and Recreation (2009-2015)
                                    • Grey’s Anatomy (2005-present)
                                    • “Dear Sugar” by Cheryl Strayed
                                    • I And Love And You by the Avett Brothers
                                    • Jersey Giant
                                    • All Your’n by Tyler Childers
                                    • Alice, Darling (2022) 
                                    • Armchair Expert with Dax Shepherd
                                    • 1 hr 35 min

                                    About She Said

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                                    Join Katie + Kenz as we discuss women-made media, women in the media and all related topics. Follow "She Said" on Instagram and Twitter @_shesaidpodcast. New episodes released each Wednesday!