Shelby Cinca is a wild conversation. What a blast. We learn how he wound up overseas, the DC scene, Dischord, Ian McKaye...really cool insight on a scene that we all THINK we know. His band Frodus is considered to be a cornerstone band of the 90's post-hardcore. Shelby Cinca has played with members of Fugazi, Dillinger Escape Plan and many, many....MANY others. Seriously. Biggest band camp page I've ever seen. We discuss board gaming, cupcake making and pro wrestling. But it also gets deep, dark and beautiful. We discuss birth, death, sacrifice, perspective and dark matter. We love this dude...and we love you. Take care. Bye-bye.

Chapter 19 Show Notes:

Frodus Website: http://www.frodus.com

Shelby's Bandcamp Page: https://shelbycinca.bandcamp.com

Shelby's Discography: http://www.themindcontrol.com

Chapter 19 Music:

-Primus - Mrs. Blaileen

-Primus - Pure Imagination

-Frodus - Lights Off For Safety

-Frodus - The Misaligned Men Of Flomation

-Frodus - 6/99

-El Huervo - Daisuke

-Stewart Copeland - Spyro The Dragon Soundtrack (Excerpt)

-Frodus - Formula

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