In today’s episode, Barb and Cecelia are talking about something deeply personal and confronting for both of them. Cecilia shares that just a month ago, she didn’t consider menopause to be a leadership conversation. And that shocked her. She's spent her career talking about inclusion, performance, and thriving at work, yet she realized she had internalized the silence around this topic.

 Why?

Because it’s almost never discussed in professional settings, at least not in the personal experiences of Barb and Cecilia. Somewhere along the way, they both unconsciously accepted the idea that menopause was not a part of the leadership. It wasn’t on the list. So let’s name it: when we hear the word menopause, or menopausal women, what comes to mind? What images do we see?

In this episode, they're unpacking those assumptions, stereotypes and rewriting them. They are reframing menopause not as a pause, not as decline or discomfort, but as a POWER PHASE , a chapter of leadership maturity, deep expertise, emotional intelligence, resilience, and influence. This conversation feels like it is long overdue.