You loved listening to Shinobu and Matt in episode 27 where we talked about their project: Residency for Artists on Hiatus. They are back on the podcast today, and we have more time to delve in deeper into society's need for structure, the relationship between life and art, and we get personal with Shinobu's 2019 year.

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