The recently released documentary Shiny Happy People is causing a stir in and around the Evangelical community. It follows the rise and fall of the Duggar family, who rose to stardom through The Learning Channel's (TLC) show 19 Kids and Counting. Since its release years ago, some of the dark secrets of family members have come into light and have caught the public's attention, pulling down the facade, and revealing that the perfect Christian family persona seen on TV was only part of the story. The Duggars are real, broken people with many evidences of fallenness and a profound need for grace like the rest of us. On today's podcast, Pastors Jeff and Rob sit down to talk about the documentary, what can be learned from it, and redemptive possibilities for it.