Jake and I talk about how he makes his music from start to finish. His band Kidd Brother was so kind as to make the music for this podcast. Thank you to Jake Sahlberg go check out his band, Kidd Brother, on bandcamp. We disscuss old emo and new muic that inspires him. Per usual we went on some wacky tangents. Buckle up for some music production talk. We shot the shit for so long that we didn't get to read any fanfiction, maybe in a future episode we will.