THRIVERS: Impact-Driven Leadership for the Next Normal

Should You Invest More In Leaders & Less In Programs? A Conversation with Jason Janz


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The demands of leadership in the nonprofit sector are overwhelming right now. 

The need to scale, serve, and make real impact can all too easily lead to neglecting personal wellbeing. 

Oftentimes we seem to be faced with the difficult decision of choosing between investing in program development or investing in our staff.

It’s time to consider the powerful shift that occurs when your staff becomes a central part of your transformative journey.

In this episode of THRIVERS, Tucker, Sarah, and their guest Jason Janz,  the co-founder of the nonprofit organization CrossPurpose,  propose a bold shift in focus — investing more in leaders and less in programs.


Throughout the discussion, they explore the profound impact this shift can have on the health of an organization and the potential for transformational outcomes. 


They delve into the idea of nurturing a leadership team that embodies the transformative values of an organization and prioritizes their own growth and development as a path to achieving greater impact.


Key takeaways from the conversation include:


  • The significance of letting go of a scarcity mindset that inhibits investment in leadership growth
  • Recognizing the potential that lies in prioritizing your leaders over expanding program activities
  • Challenging the conventional wisdom with a radical idea: "Your staff matters more than those you serve"
  • Realizing the power of orienting your team towards your transformative outcome, rather than being consumed by everyday activities
  • The profound impact of personal transformation on your leadership style and overall team dynamics


Join us for this insightful episode as we navigate the challenging but rewarding landscape of transformative leadership in the nonprofit sector.



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