In this Primal HR Hot Take, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham react to SHRM’s $11.5 million lawsuit involving harassment, discrimination, and wrongful termination inside its own organization. They unpack the hypocrisy, leadership failures, Glassdoor reviews, and what this moment means for HR credibility, culture, and accountability.

In this Primal HR Hot Take, Terry Smith and Leslie Lulham react to SHRM’s $11.5 million lawsuit involving harassment, discrimination, and wrongful termination inside its own organization. They unpack the hypocrisy, leadership failures, Glassdoor reviews, and what this moment means for HR credibility, culture, and accountability.

SHRM’s $11.5M Lawsuit: 
A Primal HR Hot Take

Primal HR is a bold, no-BS podcast about the real human side of work.Hosted by longtime HR leader Terry Smith and people strategist Leslie Lulham, Primal HR cuts through corporate jargon to tackle what’s actually happening in today’s workplaces — from return-to-office mandates and toxic culture to leadership failures, employee burnout, and the future of work.Each episode blends sharp insight, real stories, and practical advice for HR professionals, managers, and employees who care about building workplaces that actually work for people. No fluff. No performative HR. Just honest conversations about leadership, culture, and the decisions that shape our working lives.If you’re tired of sanitized corporate talk and want real perspectives on HR, leadership, and workplace culture — this is your podcast.

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Primal HR is a bold, no-BS podcast about the real human side of work. Hosted by longtime HR leader Terry Smith and people strategist Leslie Lulham, Primal HR cuts through corporate jargon to tackle what’s actually happening in today’s workplaces — from return-to-office mandates and toxic culture to leadership failures, employee burnout, and the future of work. Each episode blends sharp insight, real stories, and practical advice for HR professionals, managers, and employees who care about building workplaces that actually work for people. No fluff. No performative HR. Just honest conversations about leadership, culture, and the decisions that shape our working lives. If you’re tired of sanitized corporate talk and want real perspectives on HR, leadership, and workplace culture — this is your podcast.

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SHRM’s $11.5M Lawsuit: A Primal HR Hot Take

SHRM’s $11.5M Lawsuit: A Primal HR Hot Take