In this episode I talk to Shumela Ahmed who is managing director of the social enterprise 'Resilience Learning Partnership'.

We cover lots of ground & amongst other things we look at the importance of using lived experience ethically . We also talk about areas such as the continued roll out of the promise & the use of the residential child care sector in Scotland .

Please have a listen and share if you can.

Thank you to Shumela , I really enjoyed speaking with you.