We only have seven days left before the three week timer on the government shutdown runs out. What’s at stake? Funding to build a wall between Mexico and the United States.

Though a wall may stem the flow of migrants for a time, it doesn’t address the larger problems that have made the US immigration system difficult to navigate nor the ones that have pushed migrants to flees their homelands in the first place.

So, what should Americans do and how should we think about the people that want to become U.S. citizens?

Em Bricker, a legal worker in Indianapolis, joins my mom and I to talk about her experiences working with refugees at the San Diego border Fence, her perspective on the Central American Caravan, and what hopes she has for Americans as we sort through this big topic.