In this episode I sit down with fellow podcaster/host of The Phasey Wave Show and friend Nate Tower. We cover a lot of topics including the pandemic, fatherhood, music, podcasting and marathon running. Nate shares about shutting off perfect and learning to embrace what's more organic to him. Thanks to all who are listening and thanks for joining us on the show Nate! You can check out his podcast at https://open.spotify.com/show/3PtYz2TADzxKjmVFKEVDOR?si=O3GfClr4QBClCAaPl5uN_Q