Military gurus Jim Dunnigan and Austin Bay are discussing some hot takes on modern warfare. They're buzzing about China's sneaky tactics to mess with America and the game-changing potential of cheap, unmanned sea drones. Jim's all fired up about how these hard-to-detect "sea babies" could be a game-changer in places like Taiwan, potentially stopping invasions dead in their tracks. Austin's onboard but throws in a reality check about the U.S. not being quite ready for two major conflicts. These guys are cooking up ideas for beefing up defenses without breaking the bank, thinking smart mines and sea drones might be the secret sauce for 21st-century deterrence. It's like they're writing a new playbook for keeping the big bad wolves at bay without going full-on World War III.