Writer Mark O'Connell joins the podcast to talk about how Silicon Valley billionaires are preparing for the apocalypse in New Zealand and their attempts to become immortal.

Utopian Horizons is a podcast about utopias, real and imaginary. Each episode covers a different utopia, dystopia, utopian thinker, or utopian movement, asking what they can tell us about ourselves, our society, and our future.

Music: The Fiction of Utopian Studies/The Road To Oceania by The Fucked Up Beat.