Rav Yoel Marton

Simanim of Rosh HaShana & Eating before Tekios


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Simanim of Rosh HaShana

Gemara & Sources

  • Rosh HaShana: Two girsaos — one to see the Simanim, one to eat them.

  • Krisus: Only mentions eating.

  • Shulchan Aruch: Rules to eat the Simanim.

  • Poskim: If one cannot eat (allergies, bugs), seeing suffices.

  • Kaf HaChaim: Yehi Ratzons may be recited even without Simanim present.

Second Night

  • Elya Rabba, Eishel Avraham: Limited to first night (“beginning of the year”).

  • Rav Elyashiv: Did Simanim at all meals.

Hashem’s Name in Yehi Ratzon

  • Shulchan Aruch: Omits.

  • Elya Rabba/Mishna Berurah: Includes.

Apple in Honey

  • Debate: must the apple itself be sweet?

  • Rav Yaakov Kamenetzky: Yes, use a sweet apple.

Bracha on Apple & Order

  • Fruits eaten for siman, not satiation → require a bracha.

  • Yehi Ratzon ideally said with food in front, but may be hefsek.

    • Solution: make bracha, take a bite, then say Yehi Ratzon.

  • Other Simanim (no bracha): Yehi Ratzon said before eating.

Which Fruit for HaEtz

  • Shulchan Aruch: Priority to Shivas HaMinim (dates before pomegranates/apples).

  • RSZA, Kaf HaChaim: Bracha on dates.

  • Minhag: Many make bracha on apple; Kaf HaChaim explains this only works if other fruits aren’t on the table.

Nuts

  • ReMA: Many avoid walnuts — gematria “chet” & issues with davening.

  • Magen Avraham: Hazelnuts same issue. Peanuts permitted.

  • Rav Moshe Stern: walnut as minor ingredient fine; “walnut cake” problematic.

Vinegar / Bitter Foods

  • Magen Avraham, MB, Mateh Efraim: Avoid vinegar, bitter, and sour foods.

  • Only applies if the food tastes bitter.

General Principle

  • One may not eat before mitzvos (Gemara Brachos). Applies to Tekios.

Poskim

  • Magen Avraham, Trumas HaDeshen: Even tasting prohibited.

  • Rishonim: Some distinguish arai vs. keva.

  • Mishna Berurah, Chayei Adam: Only light snack permitted if great need.

  • Mateh Efraim: Same for Tekios, privately if necessary.

Yeshiva Minhag

  • Lenient due to long davening — considered a great need.

What Counts as Arai?

  • Fruits, meat, fish = permitted.

  • Cake/mezonos: danger zone. More than k’beitza = seuda → prohibited.

  • MB: Al HaMichya after kzayis cake.

  • Rav Moshe/Brisker Rav: Disagree — other ingredients don’t count as grain. Must be actual kzayis of flour.

Practical Rosh HaShana Concern

  • If machmir like Rav Moshe, eating cake to shiur → prohibited keva before Tekios.

  • Safer: less than k’beitza of grain-dense foods.

Gedolei Psak

  • Rav Henkin: opposed Kiddush pre-Tekios (“minhag ra”).

  • Rav Gifter: defended Yeshiva practice.

  • Rav Henkin: cites Mishnah in Peah — even minority psak may be correct.

Eating Before Tekios

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