Today’s guest is Simon Gough, a service designer and big thinker. Today's conversation we talk about a variety of things, exploring the tension between small scale and large scale or people and institutions.

Alan Watts video: https://youtu.be/ERbvKrH-GC4

Books:

How to Thrive in the Next Economy, by John Thackara

Deschooling Society, by Ivan Illich

Cover art by Danielle Brooks: https://www.daniellebrooksillustration.co.uk/

Technical support from Abhinav Wadhwa: https://www.abhinavwadhwa.in/ 

Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):

https://uppbeat.io/t/vocalista/strangers-in-the-night-acapella

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