Former Preston North End, Leeds United and Sunderland gaffer Simon Grayson joins Craig and Amy to discuss how you go about getting a job as a football manager. He joins us fresh from a secret zoom job interview with a foreign club and reveals how it went, we hear how it's not uncommon to be offered a job when there is still a manager in the hot seat and what happened when as a player coach at Blackpool he went to the chairman to resign. All that plus we get the inside scoop on the Sunderland documentary plus just what Billy Bremner was like as a boss.