Grant has a fascinating interview with the renowned author Simon Kuper about his new book The Barcelona Complex: Lionel Messi and the Making—and Unmaking—of the World's Greatest Soccer Club. The timing of the book release is impeccable, and Kuper explains the forces that have resulted in FC Barcelona getting more than $1 billion in debt and being forced to announce that Lionel Messi would be leaving the club. He also forecasts where Barça goes from here and explains how he received remarkable access to so many people at the club for his book.

Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqIhXWUw0H4

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