Infrastructure is one of those things that people like to say shouldn’t be a partisan issue, but maybe the secret of it is that it actually is: Democrats and Republicans have very different ideas about how to pay for it. That’s the highlight of our conversation with Rep. John Shimkus (R-Ill.), chairman of a key environmental subcommittee in the House.

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