In this episode we are joined by Emma River-Roberts, a working class environmental activist based in England, to talk about the middle class character of the mainstream green movement, its tendency to moralistic and scientistic forms of analyses, degrowth and how to communicate green politics, the importance of a class analysis to understanding the planetary crisis and how to connect solutions to that crisis to improving the lives of working class people and winning their support for a just transition. And why most working class people don't want to know about the recipe, they just want the cake!