Charlie and Abi reveal their very different weekends (one involving 13 hours in a cinema, the other – a pond) before getting into what’s been haunting their brains this week.

Charlie explains why the Olympics is her latest obsession, Abi digs into the trad wife that has everyone talking which leads into a hefty discussion on the contradictions and complexity of womanhood.

You can find us at @thelisten_, @abigib, @imcharlieperry and send us a love letter here for us to read out next week.

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• Ballerina Farm article
• Catherine Zeta Jones Olive Oil

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