Ren is an artist, illustrator and educator from California. Dario is an Italian cyclist that was visiting me through a website called Warmshowers. Dario set aside several months to wonder around California by bike, and he met us on his way from San Fransisco to Baja California. I met Dario the day I planned to record with Ren, so we invited him to join.

In this episode we talk about the importance of adventures, travel and getting out of your comfort zone.