In this compelling conversation with historian Dr. Joshua Rothman from the University of Alabama, we explore the complex relationship between slavery and the U.S. Constitution. Dr. Rothman reveals how the founding document's compromises—from the three-fifths clause to the fugitive slave provision—both protected and perpetuated human bondage while planting seeds for eventual conflict. We discuss how economic forces, technological innovations like the cotton gin, and territorial expansion transformed what founders might have seen as temporary accommodations into entrenched systems that ultimately led to Civil War. Dr. Rothman's insights illuminate the profound contradictions at the heart of American democracy: a nation founded on ideals of freedom while simultaneously codifying and expanding slavery. This episode offers essential context for understanding the constitutional crisis that erupted at Fort Sumter in April 1861.