We thought this was going to be a conversation about rest and self-care tips for burnt-out organizers. We were not prepared for what actually happened. Lindsay Scola (former Obama campaign advance staffer turned sleep expert) joins us to talk about why so many of us are exhausted, why our doctors aren't helping, and what we can actually do about it. Fair warning: at least three people on this recording had a personal reckoning. You might too.

Learn more about Lindsay's work here: https://www.lindsayscola.com/