Guest: Dr. Jade Wu
Hosts Dave and Luke welcome Dr. Jade Wu, an internationally recognized behavioral sleep medicine specialist and author of Hello Sleep. Together, they explore why sleep is a foundation for mood, focus, creativity, and resilience. Dr. Wu explains how our relationship with sleep matters more than chasing perfection, and why treating sleep like an engineering project often backfires.
Listeners will learn what Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBT-I) really involves, why common “sleep hygiene” tips are misunderstood, and how flexible routines, not rigid rules, create healthier sleep. Along the way, Dr. Wu shares insights from her clinical work, stories from her book, and practical advice for anyone who has ever felt “tired but wired.
Chapters[Start] Introducing Dr. Jade Wu: Her journey into sleep science, inspired by her father’s research with astronauts.
03:13 Sleep and Mental Fitness: Why good sleep is fuel for mood, memory, creativity, and relationships.
12:13 Myths About Sleep Hygiene: Why gadgets, perfect environments, and rituals can actually backfire.
20:57 Practical Tools for Insomnia: How CBT-I and low-tech tracking can help reset your relationship with sleep.
Links and Resources- ElizaChat - Your Personal Mental Fitness Coach
- Hello Sleep by Dr. Jade Wu
- DrJadeWu.com