Dan sits down with old friends Jayson Verdibello and Eric Zrinsky to talk about their newest project, Small Graves. Formed out of the post-pandemic ashes of goodnight/good luck, Jay and Eric talk about how they eventually decided to start another band, scrapping all their unused songs to begin again, the ups and downs of being in a loud rock band in your mid to late 30s, marriage, fatherhood, and their love for the younger punk rock kids. Small Graves' newest single, "Jayson Sadman's Joyless Travel Agency" is out now wherever you get digital music, along with a music video. Their forthcoming EP, 'irregular' (recorded at The Headroom with Kyle Pulley) will be out later this year.