On this week’s POD, our hosts are back from a recent boys’ trip to Spain, and are still trying to catch their breath! The conversation centers around food, friends, and the families waiting at home. Eventually, the discussion pivots towards corporate complexities, incentive structures, and the mind-melting effect bureaucratic nonsense has on the population at large. Other topics include: the recent rise in cigarette coolness, vintage shopping abroad, redefining the term “bathhouse,” and paternity leave as a small-business owner.