This episode of Small Talk Big Ideas podcast is with my Mum and Dad, Rosalie and Julian Ugarte, and as with all parents their influence in my life has been an incredible experience.

It’s only in recent years that I have realised how the connection between us had to be increased, and that the simple words  “I love you” are easy to say.

Listen in on the stories of their lives, investing in property, and listen as I'm brought to tears watching the pain in my mother's eyes as she relives a traumatic experience through two generations. 

It's an open an honest conversation with some surprises, even for me; including the realisation that my father at 13 years of age was the person who discovered that my grandfather had passed from this earth.