In this episode I am talking with Ondrej Zak. Ondrej of the CEO of Zario, a company focused on digital wellbeing (meetzario.com). Their app Zario: Digital Wellbeing is aimed at helping individuals have a healthier relationship with their smartphone. Ondrej and I discuss smartphone use, what defines “problematic use”, and discuss the cultural attachment to technology.

Intro and Outro music by Broke for Free.