We talk about how we tend to put other people on pedestals and "other" each other, creating a pretend hierarchy and constantly striving to "get somewhere and be perfect" (that place and state where everyone else seems to be).

Smith & Jones: We don't want to be perfect

Song Baker is all about creative women rising to the top. Each fortnight I (Sam Buckingham) chat with female songwriters and creatives I admire, and ask questions you probably won’t hear being asked on radio.

We talk about defining and making your own success, the songwriting and creative process, smashing bs sexism and conditioning, and how we can make the world a better place through art.

Real talk. Unscripted, unedited, just two women talking about music and life.

Hit subscribe so you don’t miss an episode, and head to www.sambuckingham.com to get the show notes - and some seriously helpful tips on creating whatever it is you were put on this earth to create.

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Song Baker is all about creative women rising to the top. Each fortnight I (Sam Buckingham) chat with female songwriters and creatives I admire, and ask questions you probably won’t hear being asked on radio. We talk about defining and making your own success, the songwriting and creative process, smashing bs sexism and conditioning, and how we can make the world a better place through art. Real talk. Unscripted, unedited, just two women talking about music and life. Hit subscribe so you don’t miss an episode, and head to www.sambuckingham.com to get the show notes - and some seriously helpful tips on creating whatever it is you were put on this earth to create.

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