A lot of people aren’t losing their faith in one dramatic moment, they’re just drifting into a quiet, bored, overly safe Christianity. We sit down to talk about Burn, a new book Justin wrote as a practical field guide for anyone coming back to church after years away and anyone who’s still showing up but feels spiritually cold.

We start with the story that sets the tone: Latimer and Ridley, martyred for bringing God’s Word to people in a language they could understand, and the line about kindling a fire that won’t go out. From there we get honest about what it means to live as a living sacrifice (Romans 12), why “there are no little decisions,” and how a biblical worldview changes everything from your habits to your courage. If you’ve been shaped by fear-based Christianity, cultural pessimism, or a constant impulse toward self-preservation, we press into a better frame: redeem the time, wake up to what’s real, and live with hope rooted in Christ’s finished work.

We also get practical: why real Christian community is essential for sanctification, how “fake community” online leaves us isolated, and why action steps matter more than collecting the right answers. We talk Bible study, prayer, calling, and how to stop managing an image of maturity and start becoming the kind of person whose life actually means something.

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