<p>Jord, Jasper and Cars break down early pre-season story lines, including some set-backs and controversy surrounding the Vancouver Canucks.</p>

Jord, Jasper and Cars break down early pre-season story lines, including some set-backs and controversy surrounding the Vancouver Canucks.

So Much for Optimism

Hockey talk show featuring three guys from western Canada. Twice a week we'll discuss the ins and outs of the latest hockey news cycle and give our thoughts on everything going on around the league. Enjoy the takes of a fanatical flames fan and his only slightly less unhinged Canucks counter-parts.

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So Much for Optimism

So Much for Optimism