Noel From The Dumpees podcast joins Joe to talk about some of the unspoken aspects of sobriety and less-advertised methods of staying sober. The Dumpees on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dumpees/id1453329901 Design and logo by Black Bulb Creative: www.blackbulbcreative.com Sponsored by www.loansforpets.com