Michael and Mark talk to comedian, podcaster, author and influencer Sofie Hagen about the glass cliff, wearing trousers and becoming the new menkind host. Also featuring special guest Hank. 

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Follow menkind on Twitter and Instagram @menkindpodcast and Sofie @SofieHagen

Recorded and edited by Victoria Payne and Lianne Coop for Impatient Productions. Artwork by Haiminh Le.

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