In this inspiring episode, Elle is joined by Rob Black for an open and insightful conversation about leadership, confidence, and the human side of cybersecurity.

With a career that’s anything but traditional, Rob shares his journey from national security to becoming a respected leader in cyber - proving that there’s no single path into the industry. His story highlights how diverse backgrounds and soft skills can be just as powerful as technical expertise.

Together, they explore the importance of tackling imposter syndrome, building community, and empowering others as the foundation of effective leadership. Rob also shines a light on initiatives like the UK Cyber Leaders Challenge, which are helping to inspire and develop the next generation of cyber leaders.