Sam Newman and Michael Heiß have a long history of helping organizations with technical architectures and organizational dynamics. I talked with them about the future of software architecture, the return of the Monolith, and the importance of play in daily work. This episode is special since we recorded it live at the QED conference!

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This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #61 - Software architecture and play with Sam Newman and Michael Heiß.

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Trends in software architecture
 
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The importance of play in workplace

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