Hallway Chat

"Software should be soft" - Meter Command with Anil Varanasi


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Join Fraser, Nabeel, and special guest Anil from Meter as they dive into the innovation behind Meter Command. Meter's new interface has been called the "future of software" and a far ranging interview talks about the problem of designing product around personas, how command interfaces bridge the gap between CLI and dashboards, the importance of owning your tech stack, how your data is your product roadmap, and the orientation to long term thinking while still staying on the cutting edge.

Links
* See a demo of Meter Command
* There's a lot of fine work from Bret Victor on visualization and interfaces, but here's one to get you started
* Geoffrey Litt's Malleable SW in the age of LLMs
* Hunter Walk's post on OKRs post his stint at Google

  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (00:19) - Meter Command and the future of software
  • (03:36) - What we forget about software making
  • (06:39) - Models make you reassess your own product
  • (07:27) - Why aren't there more AI explorations in software?
  • (09:38) - The "efficiency era" of startups
  • (13:21) - Software should be soft
  • (17:13) - The problem of "persona building" software
  • (21:29) - Enterprise software is reporting
  • (22:37) - Your data is your product roadmap
  • (25:13) - Emersing in the trends of AI as a founder
  • (27:27) - From janky prototype to custom model building
  • (29:55) - "No AI" - Build for the problem, not the technology
  • (36:50) - Full stack first, APIs over time
  • (40:14) - If you want to be early you have to be full stack
  • (48:28) - Long term orientation
  • (50:56) - What one thing would you work on now
  • (55:41) - End
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